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Stamp: Destroy The World by Quantization Stamp: Destroy The World by Quantization
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I really am tired of other people trying to force laws down my throat to comply with a God they invented for behavior control.

The Crusades cost us almost 800 years of human development, I would rather not have Religion try to destroy the world again.


Things we'd have right now if we didn't have religion:

Cure for Cancer [stem cell research].

Ability to Regrow Limbs [stem cell research].

Cures for deadly congenital defects (Khrons, Diabetes, Multiple Sclerosis.) [stem cell research]

Unified Society and Government [current norms prevent societies of different religion from peaceful coexistence.]

Space Travel [Loss of hundreds of years of astronomical data during the crusades as the Catholics didn't want anyone believing that the Earth wasn't the center of the universe.]

Less bigotry, racism, and societal strife. [refer to peaceful
coexistance]

Global suffrage (voting rights). [Religion has always treated the minority population of the group it's established in, and all women, as second-class citizens, often denying these groups the right to vote. See 'Unified government"]

Acknowledgment of human rights globally [Religion refusing to acknowledge the rights of homosexuals to marry, the right for a woman to have an abortion, etc].

Possibly a few more.


Things we would lose if we lost religion:

Large death tolls as a result of holy war and bloodshed. [War in Iraq, war between the Jews and Palestinians which has been raging for over 1,000 years.]


It's a pretty decent trade, don't you think?

This isn't to say that organized Religion is the source of the worlds problems, or that there isn't any non-religious opposition to issues like gay marriage, stem cell research, abortion, and et cetera, but if you look, and I mean really look, most arguments against these things stem from some sort of 'biblical law'.

Jesus isn't here anymore, guys, and we don't live in barns anymore. We don't stone people to death either, nor do we sacrifice lambs to the sky. We have telecommunication, satellites in orbit, 500-foot-tall buildings and hospitals.
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All0Hallows0Eve Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2011
I like how you actually chose to explain yourself instead of just saying Religion is bad. Especially to go into great detail into why you (and many others) believe religion is destroying the world. Instead of saying well it would take to long for me to explain, and you probably wouldn't understand.

But I do think the first way religion could get a better name for its self is by growing a pair and admitting what they did was wrong. Like the most common justifacation to the crusades has to be "well we did it in the past so it shouldn't count". Even though every mistake a scientist makes when it comes to evolution can never be taken back.

Or my favorite where you get those parents who tell their kids a bible story where Jesus said beat up all the kids that are different. But when their kids beat up that kid into the name of god, they say "what we would never tell them to hurt people, we just wanted them to know that thows people are freaks that should never be excepted".
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Dreamcasts Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
How does religion have anything to do with stem-cell research not being able to be conducted?
It's just a law.
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LiteratePothead Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
:iconepicclapplz: This, is awesome.
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supercupcakekitten Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2011
christian "THIS IS STUPID! GOD I MY SAVIOR! GAYS SHOULD BE BANNED! etc..."
atheist "OMG i agree. religion is STEWPID and POINTLESS! we'd be better off without jesushumpers!! :D "
skeptic "well i agree, i disagree, we need religion for security..."
me "CHRISTIAN, ATHEIST, SKEPTIC SHIT :3"
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Quantization Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2011
You: "I find myself unable to compose a coherent message."

Me: "Come back when you can rub two neurons together."
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supercupcakekitten Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2011
ill be sure to come back when that happens, sir
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ErikaVoyager Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2011  Student General Artist
The idea of abolishing religion would make me smile...

But, like my father said, it can be a moral compass for those who are lost.
What would happen if humanity didn't believe in an ever loving creator or afterlife (I actually do believe in afterlife, even if I'm closer to an atheist than a religious person) anymore ? Would people go crazy and not care anymore about what is right or wrong ? Would they commit suicide because they're afraid of death (totally contradictory thing to do when you think about it)
I'm not a religious person and I do think religions incapacited humanity (the wars, the killing of the "infidels", trying to block scientific discoveries...) ... but in a way, it also made some people better (law can work too but I think people may be more scared of a mysterious force than men).

I think we should all be free of believing in what we want.
The problem I have with religion is that it became a corrupted institution. A lot of things that are prohibid by religion are just invention of men (a lot of injustice against women is nothing divine at all for example... just corrupted men writing whatever they want in a book, passing it as divine truth just to keep women on a leash).
Of course, I said religion can be a moral compass but... surely the killers and the pedos lost their own compass somewhere.
Funny, I'm no religious person but I have more humanity and sense of morality than some religious fanatics who kill "in the name of God".
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kairitonks Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2011
I believe in god and stuff but i do believe in progress as well. Religion throughout history has either united or destroyed all things in its path. Its kinda a comfort blanket for when things are at its best and a scapegoat when all things at its worst. Really, we just need to do what is right.
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jedi-one Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2011
The only kind of atheist that annoys me.
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Quantization Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2011
The exact kind of Christian I'm targeting.
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IP-Service Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2011
What is wrong with stem cell research? 0o
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Quantization Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2011
Ask the neocons and the jesushumpers.
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IP-Service Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2011
Lol.
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Quantization Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2011
All you have to do is go to Texas. 96% of them are either a neoconservative or a Christian.
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IP-Service Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2011
Lol XD and yeah, Christianity is just made to control people.
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ShadowFilledHeart Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2011
HELL YES, ABOLISH THAT RELIGION!

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Sir-William-III Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
While I don't have as extreme an opinion as you, I have to say you are so totally right about everything you said. It's like, tough to imagine religion becoming taboo but at the same time, it's hard to see religion as big as it is today 100 years from now
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EchoTheWhiteWolf Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2011
Isn't that just as oppressive as religion itself?
**Oh, and I don't know what you mean by "live in barns" but I live in a rural area, and I'm not marrying my brother or sacrificing lambs.

And what the heck does stem cell research have to do with religion? And you act as if without religion, we'd find a cure for cancer? Pfft. I mean, that would be great, but really? What the heck does mother nature have to do to control our disgustingly overbearing population?

Also, for the most part, I agree with ~xBLOODYSMILEx
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EchoTheWhiteWolf Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2011
*Also, just felt like adding here:

.About the "global human rights" thing: I'll use a VERY overlooked example of MODERN OPPRESSION. Native American rights. Native Americans are still fighting for basic citizenship, they need special laws of protection over them just to keep people from tearing their own homes to the ground, and are still losing land, even today.
They can't even keep their OWN NAMES and need to "adopt an English name" to leave their reservations.
Why? Not because of religion, but because of money, greed, and our own prejudices (which by the way are the main cause of evil deeds in the world, not personal beliefs). Why is it always gays or racial minorities people have a cow over, when America's first inhabitants can't even be protected properly?
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Mehf Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2011
....... i think people either suck, are hungry, or want to much is the problem.
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xBLOODYSMILEx Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2011
Whoa, whoa, stop the presses mate. Not all the Christians you speak of are opposed to gay rights, abortion rights, stem cell research and science. We're a diverse bunch of people. Some of us (gasp!) can think logically and don't impose our ways on others. If people can't have religion, then you're getting rid of a vital human right. So what if people want to worship something higher than their toe cheese? If people just mind their own business, everything will be ok.

If religion was abolished, we'd lose the YMCA, Habitat for Humanity, not to mention a bunch of Christian-run hospitals and charities.

Anything can be used to do evil, whether it be science, religion, etc. However, it's not the medium that is evil, but the person with the evil intent in mind.
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Quantization Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011
I don't move for the abolition of a human right, I move for the use of that right in politics to be abolished. Christians can run hospitals, charities, and other programs all they wish, yet the constitution does say outright that laws can't be passed specifically to please the Christians. Logically, that means a great deal of laws are unconstitutional.

Science is used for evil sometimes, the Atom bomb, gas chambers, etc. Christianity is used very often to limit the potential of the human race.
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xBLOODYSMILEx Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011
Oh, ok I understand. Separation of Church and State, right? I'm totally for it.
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Quantization Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011
Yes.
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h-irsch Featured By Owner May 16, 2011  Student Digital Artist
I believe in religion but I have to agree...

I believe in Jesus and wears a cross. I have friends who are Hindu or even Muslim. Do we shoot machine guns at each other? No.

I think humans are too stupid to realize what we really need to do in the world. Um, help homeless, cure diseases...but no we rather spend money on tanks.
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Netufi Featured By Owner May 8, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
People are interpreting this wrong... I doubt he means that we should kill them all/force atheism onto everyone. I think it's more like, we should promote scientific research and whatnot, and kind of put religion behind us until it is forgotten or has become a myth. A more subtle and reasonable way of doing it. At least, that's what I believe.
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E-mArt123 Featured By Owner May 8, 2011
SO how would this be accomplished, per se?

To abolish religion is to abolish a human right, etc etc.
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CyberLume Featured By Owner May 3, 2011
"Less bigotry, racism, and societal strife"

That seems incredibly optimistic. I mean, REALLY. Have you noticed that discrimination can arise from practically nothing other than the desire to ease your own insecurities, putting others down to make you feel better, not to mention being a manipulative tool? I mean, I know some people use religion as their avenue for that, but... :no: Unless you're saying religion is the root of people not being perfectly rational human beings at all times, in which case that is an entirely different issue.

I do not believe that "religion," as you've so generalized it, is the root cause. Yes, some people use it as an excuse to do terrible and stupid things - the Crusades, as you mentioned... to even give such an idea serious consideration seems contradictory to the main belief system, so it comes off more as an excuse to obtain power than any noble intentions. I'm sure not every single Catholic supported the horrible bloodshed that was the Crusades, either. And that's the thing, religion is often used as a front for politics - heck, just about anything is used for politics, power grabbing (selfish morons). Quite frankly, I'm a little miffed about some of the things done in the name of religion, because they are assumed to be blindly supported by everyone who happens to share that religion.

The thing is, there are a whole lot of what ifs here. It mostly comes off to me as misdirected rage and resent, because "religion" cannot ruin your life any more than you let it at this point. It sounds like you've made it into some sort of big bad monster, but I think the problem is with human selfishness. And that's just something you have to learn to deal with - forcing everyone who believes in God(s) or some other divine force to snap to it and believe only what YOU believe to be right is only going to make things worse, and it's really not any better than having religious ideas forced down your own throat.


Sorry for the long comment.... I'm not too great with articulating my opinions, but I felt like I should try to say it.
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CelloKitten Featured By Owner May 1, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Totally agree with this stamp.

Religion was created because people didn't understand how things worked back then, but now that we know, why do we still use this extremely outdated idea?
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EchoTheWhiteWolf Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2011
So you support millions of people being stripped of a human right? And all because their ideas are "outdated?"

Nice. :roll:
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CelloKitten Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
*extremely late reply to a conversation you have probably forgotten about*

Did I say we should outlaw it? No.
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EchoTheWhiteWolf Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2011
*Don't worry, I've recieved MUCH later replies. I'm not going to flip my shit over necroposting like most people.*

Read the stamp. I might be missing something here, but:

"I support religion finally being abolished" (abolished as in outlawed)

Now for your comment:

"I totally agree with this stamp"

Now what was that again?
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CelloKitten Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
my argument = completely invalid

sometimes my brain stops working.
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makiesharigan Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2011
we'd also lose some pretty awesome catholic merch. (I'm an atheist that likes the fancy things the catholics sell)
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ComaVector Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2011
Religion only exists because people don't have the balls to believe in themselves, instead of old fairytales...
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universalqueen Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2011
yesh, anti-religous people can be just as bad as religous fanfitics, and you poved that statement, Quantization.

all abolishing religon is a form of persecution. if anything the world would be a better place without violent idots
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Quantization Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2011
"Reading Too Far Into It"
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Killerwolf19 Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2011
I'm down for getting rid of anything. Because removing anything from existence is one less thing people can fight about.
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Tite-Soul Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2011
how do you put stamps in a journal?
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Smartacus Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2011
I totally agree, but for now I'd settle for true separation of church and state. Abstinence-only sex ed and Creationism are subjects that should not be taught in public schools. It won't solve all our problems, but at least it's a step in the right direction.
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Orangeferret Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2011
You hit the nail on the head with the behavior control part. Religion was the shoddy law for simpletons of it's day, the only option for maintaining control over people in those times but we defiantly don't need it in 2011. We're much more advanced than that, it feels dreadful to see people continuing to strongly believe in religion even when much scientific development has been stunted, religion has lost more lives than saved.
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tendowave87 Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2011
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Orangeferret Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2011
You keep telling yourself that lmao
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tendowave87 Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2011
The same goes for you too.
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ArchaeopteryxAlex Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2011
I agree that there have been many MANY wrongs caused by/due to religion but I don't agree with abolishing it all together - People should have their views and beliefs but learn to accept others and never take the bible too seriously. We are modern, we have 'evolved', we know so much brighter - please don't drag us back to the dark age with your extreme views (that's not directed to you btw :D)
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tendowave87 Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2011
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ArchaeopteryxAlex Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2011
exactly.
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Elphabla Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I support abolishing idiots who use religion to justify idiotic beliefs without any outside evidence or consideration for others.
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SummersBlossom Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Religion was made when we didn't understand the world and had no other way to say what was happening. Now we know how fire burns or how birds fly and we no longer need to fall back on God as a reason for this. I always thought religion did more harm then good. It's all just a fight for power.
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Quantization Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2011
Exactly. It was beneficial to start our progress, now it's merely a set of training wheels that we need to take off.
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